{"id":3614,"date":"2026-05-20T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-05-20T09:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thecoachingedgepodcast.com\/?p=3614"},"modified":"2026-05-28T18:18:15","modified_gmt":"2026-05-28T16:18:15","slug":"champion-conversations-and-the-power-of-agency-gaby-jordan-on-bridging-education-and-business-through-coaching","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thecoachingedgepodcast.com\/champion-conversations-and-the-power-of-agency-gaby-jordan-on-bridging-education-and-business-through-coaching\/","title":{"rendered":"Champion Conversations and the Power of Agency: Gaby Jordan on Bridging Education and Business Through Coaching"},"content":{"rendered":"<!--presto-player:video_id=67--><figure class=\"wp-block-video presto-block-video  presto-provider-youtube\" style=\"--plyr-color-main: var(--presto-player-highlight-color, #00b3ff); --presto-player-logo-width: 150px; \">\n\t<presto-player \n\t\tpreset='{&quot;id&quot;:1,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Default&quot;,&quot;slug&quot;:&quot;default&quot;,&quot;icon&quot;:&quot;format-video&quot;,&quot;skin&quot;:&quot;modern&quot;,&quot;play-large&quot;:true,&quot;rewind&quot;:true,&quot;play&quot;:true,&quot;fast-forward&quot;:true,&quot;progress&quot;:true,&quot;current-time&quot;:true,&quot;mute&quot;:true,&quot;volume&quot;:true,&quot;speed&quot;:false,&quot;pip&quot;:false,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:true,&quot;captions&quot;:false,&quot;reset_on_end&quot;:true,&quot;auto_hide&quot;:true,&quot;show_time_elapsed&quot;:false,&quot;captions_enabled&quot;:false,&quot;save_player_position&quot;:true,&quot;sticky_scroll&quot;:false,&quot;sticky_scroll_position&quot;:&quot;bottom right&quot;,&quot;on_video_end&quot;:&quot;select&quot;,&quot;play_video_viewport&quot;:false,&quot;hide_youtube&quot;:false,&quot;lazy_load_youtube&quot;:false,&quot;hide_logo&quot;:false,&quot;border_radius&quot;:0,&quot;caption_style&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption_background&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;is_locked&quot;:true,&quot;cta&quot;:[&quot;&quot;],&quot;watermark&quot;:[&quot;&quot;],&quot;search&quot;:[&quot;&quot;],&quot;email_collection&quot;:[&quot;&quot;],&quot;action_bar&quot;:[&quot;&quot;],&quot;created_by&quot;:1,&quot;created_at&quot;:&quot;2025-01-22 13:43:49&quot;,&quot;updated_at&quot;:&quot;2025-01-22 13:43:49&quot;,&quot;deleted_at&quot;:&quot;&quot;}'\n\t\tbranding='{&quot;logo&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;color&quot;:&quot;#00b3ff&quot;,&quot;logo_width&quot;:150,&quot;player_css&quot;:&quot;&quot;}'\n\t\tchapters='[]'\n\t\toverlays='[]'\n\t\ttracks='[]'\n\t\tblock-attributes='{&quot;playsInline&quot;:true,&quot;id&quot;:67,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/www.youtube.com\\\/watch?v=nuPiuC72gJE&quot;,&quot;preset&quot;:1,&quot;video_id&quot;:&quot;nuPiuC72gJE&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Why Most Coaches Skip the Conversations That Matter Most (Gaby Jordan, Source Elements Group)&quot;}'\n\t\tanalytics=''\n\t\tautomations\t\tprovider='youtube'\n\t\t\t\tid=\"presto-player-1\"\n\t\tsrc=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/nuPiuC72gJE?iv_load_policy=3&amp;modestbranding=1&amp;playinline=1&amp;showinfo=0&amp;rel=0&amp;enablejsapi=1\"\n\t\tmedia-title=\"Why Most Coaches Skip the Conversations That Matter Most (Gaby Jordan, Source Elements Group)\"\n\t\tcss=\"\"\n\t\tclass=\"presto-video-id-67 presto-preset-id-1 skin-modern\"\n\t\tskin=\"modern\" \n\t\ticon-url=\"https:\/\/thecoachingedgepodcast.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/presto-player\/img\/sprite.svg\" \n\t\tpreload=\"\" \n\t\tposter=\"\"\n\t\tyoutube=\"{&quot;noCookie&quot;:false,&quot;channelId&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;show_count&quot;:false}\"\n\t\tprovider-video-id=\"nuPiuC72gJE\"\n\t\tvideo-id=\"67\"\n\t\t\t\tvideo-attributes='{}'\n\t\tplaysinline\t\t\t\t>\n\t\t\n    <div class=\"presto-iframe-fallback-container\">\n        <iframe style=\"width: 100%\" title=\"Youtube Video\" class=\"presto-fallback-iframe\" id=\"presto-iframe-fallback-1\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/nuPiuC72gJE?iv_load_policy=3&amp;modestbranding=1&amp;playsinline=1&amp;showinfo=0&amp;rel=0&amp;enablejsapi=1\" allowfullscreen allowtransparency allow=\"autoplay\"><\/iframe>\n    <\/div>\n\n\t<\/presto-player>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Coaching Edge Podcast welcomes Gaby Jordan, founder of Source Elements Group and Human Better EDU, for a conversation on champion conversations, agency, and the bridge between education and business. 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