{"id":3443,"date":"2025-12-17T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-12-17T09:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thecoachingedgepodcast.com\/?p=3443"},"modified":"2025-12-09T21:38:05","modified_gmt":"2025-12-09T19:38:05","slug":"when-data-isnt-enough-anita-kishore-on-leading-with-both-head-and-heart","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thecoachingedgepodcast.com\/when-data-isnt-enough-anita-kishore-on-leading-with-both-head-and-heart\/","title":{"rendered":"When Data Isn\u2019t Enough: Anita Kishore on Leading with Both Head and Heart"},"content":{"rendered":"<!--presto-player:video_id=45--><figure class=\"wp-block-video presto-block-video  presto-provider-youtube\" style=\"--plyr-color-main: var(--presto-player-highlight-color, #00b3ff); --presto-player-logo-width: 150px; \">\n\t<presto-player 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